Might I be so bold as to suggest that “wrong” in this context is a moral judgment. Whilst morality is somewhat subjective it does, in my humble opinion, entail some degree of conscious thought. Hence, unless you have honed your dreaming ability to enable you to dictate what to include, it seems unlikely that it would be wrong.
Having said that I am just a boy and tend to be wrong when it comes to this kind of stuff. SAAK.
I am sure this wasn't your intention, but saying things like "looky no touchy" can be quite racist and offensive as using language in this way can be used to mock those people of East Asian descent for whom English is their second language.
I know that you don't have to resort such potentially racist mockery to be entertaining, so I hope you won't do it (inadvertently) again.
I'm surprised that you didn't get roused on for pandering to the dominant male gaze by contributing to wymyn's oppression by being ruled by and judged on your own physical appearance.
You can talk about your breasts/baps to your hearts content.
However when you use language that is predominantly used by racists to mock people of East Asian descent, this can be offensive. Do you find jokes that deliberately mock the suffering of Aborgines or Jews or Woman etc. funny?
no, but i find people who attempt to twist a situation in order to pick a fight offensive.
aleks, you know i loves ya, but you are the ONLY person that read the title of this post as a racial slander. i think that says more about YOU than it does about ME.
okay, i let this pass the first time aleks. i was going to say as tuppence did that i saw it as baby/cute talk, not east asian english-talk.
i have taught lots of international students and have never heard them talk like that. but then we weren't in a bangkok bar admittedly, which is the only place i can imagine this phrase possibly being used in this way. am i right?
If you look at my initial post, I did say that I didn't think it was your intention to be racist and that this was inadvertant. Thus I was not trying to pick a fight.
Perhaps I have watched more crappy hollywood movies about the Vietnam war than most people, and have come to realise just how offensive most of the films are. You often find in these movies Vietnamese prostitutes/strippers using such language as "looky no touchy soldier boy". As a result of this, as well as the notorious stories (whether they are true or not, I wouldn't know. Thanks for the implcation that I would know MelbourneGirl) about bars in Bangkok, and the fact that some people choose to get "mail order brides" from Asian countries, has meant that this sort of language is often used to by rednecks and racists to demean Asian woman and imply they are hookers/strippers.
Unfortunately, like much Hollywood crap, such language has entered mainstream usage, and people who are not racist or intending to be racist, will sometimes use it without realising the implication. In a similar way that referring to someone as being "Jewish" for being cheap has also (unfortunately) has entered the English (and other) language, and people who are not racist or intending to be racist will sometimes inadvertantly use it.
Again, as I said, I did day that this was likely not your intention and that you did it inadvertantly, and as such I asked that you be careful and not use language like this in future that can be viewed as being racist. Was that such a horrible thing to do? Obviously to some people it was.
Oh Bevis and Tuppence, if you think that finding using language that has developed from racist stereotypes as something bad, then I feel sorry for you.
BAPS 1997 A fish-out-of-water comedy in which 'Black American Princesses' Berry and Desselle play daft but lovable Georgia belles with dreams of Hollywood glory. Following a ridiculous pop video audition, they're brought to Landau's Beverly Hills mansion by his scheming nephew, who hopes thereby to grab the old-timer's fortune. You can see how the black, modern-day Pygmalion-type story could work, just, but not with this heap of cabbage leaves for a script, and not with such desperately goofy acting from Berry and Desselle. On first encountering a bidet, the girls can't turn off the tap, so they get very wet - that's the level of humour. Landau provides a wide and knowing smile. Richardson is easier as the stuffy butler, over-acting in more taciturn style than the other loudmouths. NB
I'm also a long time supporter of the Bendigo Association of Pharmacy Students. Let me tell you, the BAPS 4th Annual Pharmacy Ball which was held on September 3rd was a CORKER of an evening!
I've found just the type of charity for you, Nadsy:
http://www.bapscare.org/
But I really feel I must protest against your use of the word 'baps'. As we all know (unless you're a cultural imperialist ARSEHOLE), baps are Scottish bread rolls. I feel your use of the term in a derogatory or 'sexualised' fashion denigrates my fine Scottish ancestry and I will be taking this further.
now i'm seeing lots of nursies in white uniforms and handsome doctors [and yes, aleks, male nurses and female doctors, alright? take OFF your gender-role-watch-hat] tending to ill baps at bapcare.org - these poor mammaries perhaps have been oversqueezed, perhaps been ill-fitted into the wrong bra, ie a thin shoulder strap,low cut cup and single hook at back, when really their voluptuous spillage demanded at LEAST five back hooks and really really wide shoulder straps. or perhaps they have nursed a baby, and require a nipple transplant, the possibilities are endless...
Uh is The Jess not going to make a lewd pun relating to "on first encountering a bidet, the girls can't turn off the tap, so they get very wet" basically saying (im paraphrashing" something about Das Nadine and her getting wet? Cause thats the only reason I'm here today, to hear that. And if not, I have other stuff to do* *conditions may apply
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I'll defer that one to Freud, or Kinsley.
Nothing that a bit of bap flashing in public couldn't cure.
you'd think so wouldn't you.
unfortunately this is not the case.
*puts them away*
*sings Dreams Can Come True...*
they can if you get your ass to sydney already, mr. sherriff.
I've often asked myself the same question. No, wait...
Is it wrong for females to dream about looking at your baps?
Post a picture on your blog already! Geez, do I have to think of everything.
is it wrong for baps to have their own dreams?
ukelele: wrong? WRONG? its fucking compulsory.
adam: no.
mg: yes.
Might I be so bold as to suggest that “wrong” in this context is a moral judgment. Whilst morality is somewhat subjective it does, in my humble opinion, entail some degree of conscious thought. Hence, unless you have honed your dreaming ability to enable you to dictate what to include, it seems unlikely that it would be wrong.
Having said that I am just a boy and tend to be wrong when it comes to this kind of stuff. SAAK.
Hey Bohemian Bapcity!
I heard a new twist on our most beloved of breast related terms on Saturday night - 'nutritious lunch-baps'.
Thanks, second fave television show The Wonderful World Of Sex!
I am sure this wasn't your intention, but saying things like "looky no touchy" can be quite racist and offensive as using language in this way can be used to mock those people of East Asian descent for whom English is their second language.
I know that you don't have to resort such potentially racist mockery to be entertaining, so I hope you won't do it (inadvertently) again.
I have bap dreams all the time, although when I wake up I'm sucking my thumb. D'oh.
ah, my dear mr. anarcho-syndicalist.
only you can turn a discussion about my breasts into a political beat-down.
you have a gift.
I'm surprised that you didn't get roused on for pandering to the dominant male gaze by contributing to wymyn's oppression by being ruled by and judged on your own physical appearance.
You got off light.
Heh. Nads 'got off'.
*snickers childishly*
don't pretend like you weren't there getting me off, jessamy.
You can talk about your breasts/baps to your hearts content.
However when you use language that is predominantly used by racists to mock people of East Asian descent, this can be offensive. Do you find jokes that deliberately mock the suffering of Aborgines or Jews or Woman etc. funny?
no, but i find people who attempt to twist a situation in order to pick a fight offensive.
aleks, you know i loves ya, but you are the ONLY person that read the title of this post as a racial slander. i think that says more about YOU than it does about ME.
I interpreted it as 'baby-talk', not 'language that is predominantly used by racists to mock people of East Asian descent'.
Ahh, but you would, Tuppence. You're owned by THE MAN.
I'm just a big fat racist.
Now piss off, slanty.
okay, i let this pass the first time aleks. i was going to say as tuppence did that i saw it as baby/cute talk, not east asian english-talk.
i have taught lots of international students and have never heard them talk like that. but then we weren't in a bangkok bar admittedly, which is the only place i can imagine this phrase possibly being used in this way. am i right?
And as far as La Nadine saying Aleks has a gift ... I hope you kept the receipt, dude.
If you look at my initial post, I did say that I didn't think it was your intention to be racist and that this was inadvertant. Thus I was not trying to pick a fight.
Perhaps I have watched more crappy hollywood movies about the Vietnam war than most people, and have come to realise just how offensive most of the films are. You often find in these movies Vietnamese prostitutes/strippers using such language as "looky no touchy soldier boy". As a result of this, as well as the notorious stories (whether they are true or not, I wouldn't know. Thanks for the implcation that I would know MelbourneGirl) about bars in Bangkok, and the fact that some people choose to get "mail order brides" from Asian countries, has meant that this sort of language is often used to by rednecks and racists to demean Asian woman and imply they are hookers/strippers.
Unfortunately, like much Hollywood crap, such language has entered mainstream usage, and people who are not racist or intending to be racist, will sometimes use it without realising the implication. In a similar way that referring to someone as being "Jewish" for being cheap has also (unfortunately) has entered the English (and other) language, and people who are not racist or intending to be racist will sometimes inadvertantly use it.
Again, as I said, I did day that this was likely not your intention and that you did it inadvertantly, and as such I asked that you be careful and not use language like this in future that can be viewed as being racist. Was that such a horrible thing to do? Obviously to some people it was.
Oh Bevis and Tuppence, if you think that finding using language that has developed from racist stereotypes as something bad, then I feel sorry for you.
God, Aleks, we are so alike! Because I feel sorry for you too!
Perhaps 'pity' would be a more appropriate word here. Hmmm.
Are Das Nadine and The Jess talking about this?:
BAPS
1997
A fish-out-of-water comedy in which 'Black American Princesses' Berry and Desselle play daft but lovable Georgia belles with dreams of Hollywood glory. Following a ridiculous pop video audition, they're brought to Landau's Beverly Hills mansion by his scheming nephew, who hopes thereby to grab the old-timer's fortune. You can see how the black, modern-day Pygmalion-type story could work, just, but not with this heap of cabbage leaves for a script, and not with such desperately goofy acting from Berry and Desselle. On first encountering a bidet, the girls can't turn off the tap, so they get very wet - that's the level of humour. Landau provides a wide and knowing smile. Richardson is easier as the stuffy butler, over-acting in more taciturn style than the other loudmouths. NB
I'l leave the obvious quotejoke for The Jess...
*orders copy*
*invites jess round*
*strips*
BAPS is certainly a baptastic flick. The real question is, when are Nadine and I not talking about it?
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I'm also a long time supporter of the Bendigo Association of Pharmacy Students. Let me tell you, the BAPS 4th Annual Pharmacy Ball which was held on September 3rd was a CORKER of an evening!
??? All I said was I hope you kept the receipt.
Now I'm wonderin' if you left it in your purse.
wow, what a comment thread!
so many levels. so much drama.
not bad for a three line post too.
well done everyone.
give yourselves (or someone close to you) a good celebratory bap squeeze*.
*the proprietors of nadstown do not in any way condone sexual harassment. please obtain permission to touch the baps of others first.
I've found just the type of charity for you, Nadsy:
http://www.bapscare.org/
But I really feel I must protest against your use of the word 'baps'. As we all know (unless you're a cultural imperialist ARSEHOLE), baps are Scottish bread rolls. I feel your use of the term in a derogatory or 'sexualised' fashion denigrates my fine Scottish ancestry and I will be taking this further.
now i'm seeing lots of nursies in white uniforms and handsome doctors [and yes, aleks, male nurses and female doctors, alright? take OFF your gender-role-watch-hat] tending to ill baps at bapcare.org - these poor mammaries perhaps have been oversqueezed, perhaps been ill-fitted into the wrong bra, ie a thin shoulder strap,low cut cup and single hook at back, when really their voluptuous spillage demanded at LEAST five back hooks and really really wide shoulder straps. or perhaps they have nursed a baby, and require a nipple transplant, the possibilities are endless...
Uh is The Jess not going to make a lewd pun relating to "on first encountering a bidet, the girls can't turn off the tap, so they get very wet" basically saying (im paraphrashing" something about Das Nadine and her getting wet?
Cause thats the only reason I'm here today, to hear that. And if not, I have other stuff to do*
*conditions may apply
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